Re: Grimm shift as starting point of "Germanic"

From: george knysh
Message: 54810
Date: 2008-03-07

--- george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

>
> --- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> wrote:

> > what is the material data that support
> > a claim that Jastorf features have moved elsewhere
> ?
> >
> > Arnaud
> > ==================
>
> GK: This is a well-known and amply documented
> fact. We're talking about what occurred in the
> 4th-2nd
> c.BCE We're not talking about earlier epochs.

****GK: Polish archaeologists have been particularly
active in demonstrasting this, for obvious reasons
(Jastorf grandly influenced developments on their
territory):

Cf. T. Dombrowska, "Wczesne fazy kultury
przeworskiej,chronologia- zasieng- powionzania"
(Warsaw 1988); id., "Wplywy jastorfskie na kulturen
przeworskon w mlodszym okresie przedrzymskim" (1994)

I don't have her ipsissima verba at hand. But
cf.Sylvester Czopek in "Kultura Przeworska", Tom IV,
Lublin,1999, p. 203, summarizing Dombrowska 1988,
pp.175-188: (I translate into English): "The Jastorf
elements and materials have an evidently
inter-regional character, which is increasingly
evident from Pomerania through Mazovia up to and
including the territory where the Zarubynets'ka and
Poieneshti-Lukaszewka cultures were formed".****




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