Re: Strange words out of place

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

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> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
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> > The only rivers in *wib- Udolph finds are in Britain
> > (not on the map).
> > Does that mean the Germani were all over the continent when the
> > Grimm-shift took place?
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> > Torsten
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> ****GK: I'm afraid

No you're not.

> the evidence of -wib/-wip is too
> opaque to draw any firm conclusions one way or the
> other (on this basis alone) as to where and when the
> Grimm shift began. ****

Not so. The only way to have the Grimm shift take place in the Jastorf
area is to assume, as Udolph does, that all those river etc names
exactly in the Jastorf area and nowhere else on the continent were
*wib- and not *wip- forms. That's bad science. All this talk of
opacity is just to hide fact that you want to go on believing the
Grimm-shift took place in Jastorf, as if nothing happened.


Torsten