Re: Strange words out of place

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

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> > >
> > > I left out one premise, the one Kuhn also uses:
> PIE *b was very r
> > > rare, almost non-existent. Therefore words in
> Germanic and toponyms
> > > in its present area with /p/ almost certainly
> don't have a direct
> > > PIE pedigree, but must have some other source,
> IE or non-IE.
> >
> > GK: Assuming this for the sake of argument, it
> > doesn't really answer my question, since the Grimm
> > shift is not involved with PIE but with whatever
> the
> > Germanic form was before it occurred. Hence the
> point
> > you made above is meaningless in this context.
> > >
>
> I don't get your objection. Please explain.
>
>
> Torsten

****GK: I don't object to your Kuhn addition. I merely
note that it does not explain your initial contention
AFAIK that "presence" of "p" and "absence" of "b"
PROVES that the areas of such presences and absences
did not undergo the Grimm shift. My objection, or
rather my request for clarification concerns this
initial contention. I would have thought the reverse
to be true: that the presence of "p" is quite
compatible with the Grimm shift since that is what the
Grimm shift is all about.****

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