Re: Re[4]: [tied] Re: *a/*a: ablaut

Nonsense: they prove everything. If a form is attested in
Anatolian, Greek, Indo-Iranian, Balto-Slavic, Armenian and
indirectly Germanic (PGmc. *hert-on- cannot be from the
oblique stem *k^r.d-, as Lat. cord-, so it must reflect
full-grade *k^e:rd-, with Osthoff shortening), then it's
assuredly PIE.

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We are discussing *e: in Anatolian.
You are alledging the existence of *e:
in Central PIE
It's off topic.
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Merely a misunderstanding on your part. Synchronically,
Hittite stressed /e/ is always long [e:], unstressed /e/ is
always short [e]. Nothing strange about that.

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It's a highly strange feature, on the contrary.
Why is it that
Anatolian allows *a/a: *i/i: *u/u:
in stressed vowels
but no short *e in stressed vowel.
Phonologically insane.

Now the fact that Hittite
has e:s-mi out of H1es-mi
makes your case hard to plead.


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See Melchert's Anatolian Historical Phonology. The most
important evidence for PA *e: is of course that it shows
distinct reflexes in Luwian, Lycian and Lydian as opposed to
*eh1. Some of the evidence given by Melchert:

(With *e: > i:)
*ne: 'not' => Luw. ni:, Lyc. ni, Lyd. ni-d
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Unclear.
The root might be *n_?
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*He:rut- 'curse' => Luw. hi:rut-
*ke:s-ah2-ye- 'to comb' => Luw. ki:s^a(i)-
*e:lH-ah2-ye- 'to wash' => Luw. e:lha(i)-
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Why e: instead of i: ??

Because the graphic system
has only -e-l- but -i-r- ?

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*e:ptro- > Luw. i:ppatarri(ya) 'distrain'
*HVpe:riye- 'to sell' > Lyc. epirije-
*pe:r 'house' > Lyd. bira
*se:rmó- 'of the precinct' > Lyd. sirma

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Two-thirds of your examples
have the structure C-i-r
with -r ending.
Contextual realization ??
Not a phoneme ?

It seems to me you are
giving phonemic status
to a graphic/contextual
problem.

None of your examples
has a clean K_T or T_K
structure.

Arnaud
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(With *eh1 > a:)
*h1yeh1- 'to do, make' > Luw. a:-, Lyc. a-
*seh1- 'to let go' > Luw. sa:-, Lyc. ha-
*dheh1- 'to put' > Lyc. ta-, Lyd. ta-
etc.

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Why is it not from *oH1 ??

A.
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