From: tgpedersen
Message: 54051
Date: 2008-02-23
>The rank and file of Ariovist's army were that same people as made up
>
> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> >
> The null
> > hypothesis, so to
> > speak, that lkanguages don't move unless we can
> > prove orherwise. I'm
> > not basing this on Snorri alone, there are other
> > things:
> >
> > 1) Why do Caesar and Tacitus state that the Germani
> > had never been
> > heard of before?
>
> ****GK: Where do they state this? CAESAR reassured his
> troops in 58 BCE that they should not be afraid of
> Ariovistus since "of that enemy a trial had been made
> within our fathers' recollection"("eius hostis
> periculum", with a specification of Cimbri and
> Teutones). The Cimbri et Teutones (late 2nd c.BCE,and
> hardly Przeworsk) were not Suevi like Ariovistus'
> people ,yet they were "that enemy"= the Germans. (De
> Bello Gallico, I, 40.) As for TACITUS, he claims, as
> is well known, that the Germans of his "Germania" were
> autochthons (Germania, 2). So the issue is not their
> ethnicity or presence long known, but their most
> recent label. Tacitus claims it was self-invented at
> the time of the original invasions of Gaul by these
> autochthons from across the Rhine. There are,of
> course, other explanations of the term. But that is a
> different issue.****