From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53984
Date: 2008-02-22
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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Finnish KASKA
>
> I don't know if the root exists anywhere in PIE, aside from the dual
> form *dwo:. The number one is interesting. There are two roots for
> one, *sem and *H3ei. The root for first is unrelated, *pro.
> Ray
>
> ============
>
> *sem is more something like "entire, in one part"
>
> I first could not recognize this *H3ei thing.
> the correct reconstruction is *H2o(H1)y-
> where H2 is *dh?
> Etruscan thu < *dh?o
> Chinese dan < *dh?oH-an
> The word meant "alone, solitary"
>
> *pro can be old
> if we accept that p_r is related
> to PU words meaning "head"
> the meaning is probably "ahead of"
> hence first
>
> now we also have kae-lebs
> root *ka? "one"
> segmented from word
> three = one + two
>
> ARnaud
>
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By *H3ei- he means the *oi of *oi-no-s.
180° from the right answer; the oerative word for 'one' is -n(o)-; the
*H3ei- is merely deictic.
There is a *dh- element that means 'body/self' but is not involved
here.(e.g. Egy Dt.f, 'himself')
Yes, I agree. You see this in Egyptian p3 and PIE *pa:-, 'be in front'.
More about *ka? might be interesting.
Patrick