From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53978
Date: 2008-02-22
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Early Indo-European loanwords preserved in Finnish
> That's an incongruous question. You call them by name.
> What would you call the non-Celtic, non-Albanian IE
> languages?
>
> --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
>
> > What would you prefer to use to designate the
> > non-Semitic/non-Egyptian
> > languages of Afrasian then?
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [tied] Early Indo-European loanwords
> > preserved in Finnish
> >
> >
> > > Hamitic, besides not being a valid branch. also
> > > carries secondary derrogative meanings associated
> > with
> > > Ham, the "cursed" son of Noah. In that sense, it
> > comes
> > > across as racist to some.
> > > Indo-Germanic sounds quaint --don't only the
> > Germans
> > > use it?
> > >
> > > --- Richard Wordingham
> > <richard@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick
> > McCallister
> > > > <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Because it [Semito-Hamitic] creates a false
> > > > dichotomy between
> > > > > Semitic and non-Semitic, presupposing that all
> > > > non-Semitic AA
> > > > > languages form one branch. Given what we know
> > > > about
> > > > > AA, that is misleading at best and comes
> > across as
> > > > > ignorant
> > > >
> > > > The problem here I presume is that we now seem
> > not
> > > > to have a branch
> > > > called Hamitic. In the interests of
> > Anglo-French
> > > > acronymic agreement,
> > > > would English 'Chado-Semitic' (CS) be
> > acceptable?
> > > > Or is
> > > > 'Indo-Germanic' to be disparaged as ignorant?
> > > >
> > > > > --- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > What is supposed to be wrong with
> > > > > > Semito-Hamitic
> > > > > > or Chamito-sémitique ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally, I think the "symmetrical"
> > > > > > Afro-Asiatic from "Indo-European"
> > > > > > is not better,
> > > > > > The symmetry crumbles when
> > > > > > PIE becomes part of CS.
> > > >
> > > > Should not Semito-Hamitic-Japhethic then be
> > > > simplified to Nohic?
> > > > (This is not Noahism!) Actually, such a group
> > would
> > > > then meet my
> > > > preferred definition of Nostratic sensu lato -
> > the
> > > > crown clade of the
> > > > original languages of the sacred texts of the
> > people
> > > > of the book.
> > > > (Avestan and Sanskrit can be added to taste -
> > they
> > > > do not change the
> > > > meaning of the term.)
> > > >
> > > > Richard.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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