From: Rick McCallister
Message: 53910
Date: 2008-02-21
> All true.____________________________________________________________________________________
>
> But someone who uses /a/ instead of /aw/ for <Sean>
> will be misleading a lot
> of people.
>
> I have no objection to using <a> for <o> (<knot>) or
> <a> for <æ> (<gnat>)
> but what symbol should be reserved for central /a/
> in <father>? It used to
> be <ä>.
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
> To: "Patrick Ryan" <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re[2]: [tied] Re: Finnish KASKI
>
>
> > At 7:27:10 PM on Wednesday, February 20, 2008,
> Patrick Ryan
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Jouppe, you are confusing me.
> >
> > > Sorry to be dogmatic, but the tongue is in the
> central
> > > position of the mouth when [a] in father is
> pronounced or
> > > it is not.
> >
> > For a particular speaker. I've heard native
> speakers of
> > U.S. varieties who use a front [a] in <father>,
> and others
> > who use a back [A], though the most common
> realization of
> > /a/ is neither front nor back. (I don't like to
> use
> > 'central' in this context, since I usually use it
> to mean
> > 'not front, not back, not high, and not low'.)
> >
> > There's certainly no reason that /a/ can't be a
> back vowel:
> > OE /a/ seems to have been a back vowel, for
> instance, the
> > low front vowel being /æ/.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
>