Re: Finnish KASKA

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53892
Date: 2008-02-21

It seems to me that most of the world's numbering systems are built on body
counting.

One concept that comes up often is *na, 'nose', for 'one'.

*dwo(:)- is, I think, derivable from *t?so, 'arm'; OK for 'two' but not very
connectible with 'one'.

If one looks at Egyptian, where it is preserved most clearly, it looks like
numerals were once appended with -*w(a) to indicate 'number'.

So, on *dwo:u-, the bottom like for me is I think the final -*u is this
'number'-element miraculously surviving. This has applications for *ok^to:u-
as well. No dual!


Patrick

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Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Finnish KASKA


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> Interesting. At one point you mention deriving *dwo: from a dual of an
> unattested **dwo meaning one. The suggestion was made to indicate an
> absurdity and you weren't seriously proposing it. However, what if
> this suggestion is correct? Of course it would be hard to prove
> without an attested form of **dwo for one. But perhaps such an
> attestation exists. Not in PIE, but in Etruscan. The Etruscan number
> one is tHu(n).
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> PIE *dwô is from *t_?_m?
> like in Hebrew te?omi "twin".
> This word is old.
> It combines with k_? "one"
> to form the word "three"
> ka?-t_?om?
> hence PU *ka?lom "three"
> Hungarian is long ha:rom
> and Basque hiru "three"
> might be here too.
> No -m- kept !!
>
> Dwô is not a dual.
>
> Arnaud
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