Re: PIE *a -- a preliminary checklist

jyvä from yewos is a perfect example of a plain stem borrowing.
Jouppe

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I don't understand this statement.
Uralic languages borrowed a two-syllable word *yewo.
Which regularly became jyvä in Finnish.
*jewo > juwo > juwa > jüvä written jyvä
Arnaud
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Counter examples appeared in the language gradually, Proto-Finnic
already happily borrowed suffixes. The tendency was gradual.
Jouppe
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See above example.
Arnaud
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Tapani Salminen is not Hungarian, not that I necessarily need to
agree completely with his writings, but the family tree is very
controversial, in many branches. The Finno-Volgaic node may already
be declared dead. Mari is just as different as Permian.

Jouppe
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No
It's made controversial by some people
who maybe have nothing else to say.

The Finno-Volgaic node is valid.
with MAri being close to Mordvin.

Permic is very different.
And it has retained voiced PU consonants
A very strong isogloss.

Arnaud

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