Re: Indo-Iranian (IIr) homeland.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

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> --- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:
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> > > > > GK: The Indo-Iranian collectivity broke up
> > > > before
> > > > > the beginning of "history", sometime in the
> > third
> > > > > millennium BCE, while still in the steppes of
> > > > Eurasia.
> > > > > This collectivity can be traced back into
> > > > > "prehistory", partly on linguistic, partly on
> > > > > archaeological grounds. Since the break
> > occurred
> > > > long
> > > > > before the Indo-Aryans appeared in the Indian
> > > > > subcontinent as a notable presence, the
> > > > reconstruction
> > > > > and trace=back does not involve studying
> > Indian or
> > > > > Iranian archaeological data.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Check out what the Harvard archaeologist Lambarg
> > > > Karlovsky 2005.pdf
> > > > about the "Indo-Iranian" collectivity. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > M. Kelkar
> > >
> > > GK: I'm more interested in what Kyiv, Donetsk
> > and
> > > Moscow archaeologists wrote and write about
> > this.
> >
> > Ok, no problem. In the mean time see what Dhavalikar
> > an Indian
> > archaeologist says about Altyn Depe South East of
> > Caspian Sea:
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> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AltynDepeMap.jpg
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> > ""The (Central Asian) Altyn Depe evidence (of a
> > society stratified by
> > occupation, Masson 1988) belongs to the third
> > millennium whereas the
> > arrangement was in vogue in the Harappan townships
> > from about
> > 2600-2500 BC and it is therefore highly probable
> > that the Harappans
> > may have influenced the Central Asians among whom
> > the differences
> > became more rigid. This is all the more likely in
> > view of the fact
> > that Harappan migrations westwards began from about
> > 2200 BC
> > (Dhavalikar 2007, p. 105, parentheses added)."
> >
> > aka The Indian Homeland Theory!
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> ****GK: Yes, the Harappans were certainly from India.
> But whether or not they "influenced" Altyn Depe as D.
> claims is neither here nor there as far as IE
> expansion is concerned. The dates point to a period
> earlier than the effective arrival of the IE's. Your
> linguistic conquerors were still in the northern
> Eurasian steppes at that time.****

That is a patently circular argument! The issue where my "linguistic
conquerors" were is based on whether Harrpans influenced Altyn Deppe.

M. Kelkar

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