Re: Meaning of Aryan: now, "white people"?

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 53271
Date: 2008-02-15

You said it from your boy, now you say it's from
Nichols? Unfortunately, none of this has anything to
do with Out of India. Nichols believes in IE, you
don't. Your arguments are irrational.


--- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
> >
> > So, you're saying Johanna Nichols claims that IE
> > originated in India? Then why does she have an
> on-line
> > article that claims otherwise? Post what Johanna
> > Nichols says, not what your buddu claims she says.
> >
>
> That was a direct quote from Nichols I had posted.
> Here is another
> nice review:
>
> "Linguist Johanna Nichols of the University of
> California, Berkeley,
> says the key to Indo-
> European's ascent was the periodic movement of
> ancestral tongues
> across central Eurasia,
> beginning around 7,000 years ago. Every few thousand
> years, a new
> language would expand
> westward across the arid grasslands of central
> Eurasia — what Nichols
> calls a "spread zone."
> These linguistic expansions, unaccompanied by any
> large population
> migration, altered the
> way people communicated across much of the
> continent.
> Reconstructed family trees of various branches of
> Indo-European show
> that these ancestral
> tongues split immediately into a dozen or more
> "daughter" languages,
> the Berkeley researcher
> says. This trait signals the rapid formation of
> regional dialects from
> an original form of speech
> and is a hallmark of spread zones.
> Linguistic evidence — much of it derived from
> reconstructions of
> extinct tongues — points
> to the spread across central Eurasia of a language
> family ancestral to
> proto-Indo-European,
> Nichols contends. Four successive spreads of
> Indo-European language
> families followed: proto-
> Indo-European around 5,500 years ago, Iranian about
> 4,000 years ago,
> Turkic nearly 2,000
> years ago, and Mongolian between 1,500 and 1,000
> years ago.
> Nichols places the proto-Indo-European homeland
> about 2,000 miles
> southeast of the homeland
> Anthony proposes. Various regional branchings of
> Indo-European
> accompanied the four
> major spreads, which began at different eastern
> points in central
> Eurasia, Nichols maintains.
> Eurasian peoples living to the east and toward the
> center of the
> continent inhabited sparse,
> dry landscapes that promoted nomadic animal herding
> and clan-based
> societies, she notes.
> Clans were dispersed clusters of people belonging to
> kinship groups
> presided over by a hierarchy
> of male rulers. Clan members were not necessarily
> biologically
> related, but they claimed a
> link to an ancient, often mythical ancestor.
> Clans on the eastern edge of the spread zone had a
> military or
> economic edge on their
> neighbors, who spoke different languages, and these
> eastern clans
> fomented the major linguistic
> diffusions, Nichols argues.
> Historical accounts, such as those describing the
> shift from Turkic to
> Mongol, indicate that
> these clan rulers often arranged alliances with
> their counterparts to
> the west. These agreements
> included a voluntary embrace by western rulers of
> the spreading
> language, she contends.
> A mixture of economic opportunism and military
> intimidation probably
> motivated clan
> leaders to accept an advancing language and its
> speakers' culture,
> Nichols suggests.
> Thus, the original Indo-Europeans may have made
> their linguistic mark
> without any of the
> cultural innovations often ascribed to them.
> "They did not bring agriculture to Europe, tame the
> horse, invent
> patriarchy and warrior
> cults, or initiate the Bronze Age," Nichols asserts.
> "They likely had
> a small competitive edge on
> other steppe societies, but the main reason why
> their language spread
> was that they happened
> to be in the right place at the right time."
>
>
http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/pdfs/data/1995/147-08/14708-11.pdf
>
> M. Kelkar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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