Indo-Iranian (IIr) homeland. Was (Re: Meaning of Aryan: now, "white

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

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> --- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh
> > <gknysh@> wrote:
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> > > --- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@> wrote:
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> > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco
> > > > Brighenti" <frabrig@>
> > > > wrote:
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> > > > > 1. the early habitat of Proto-Indo-Iranians
> > was in
> > > > an area close to
> > > > > the Central Asian steppe-taiga interface,
> > e.g.,
> > > > near the Urals;
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. these Proto-Indo-Iranians called themselves
> > > > *arya-.
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> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > Francesco
> > > >
> > > > "Indo-Iranian" is a linguistic idea. It does not
> > > > refer to any actual
> > > > people who can be traced back into history.
> > >
> > > ****GK: The Indo-Iranian collectivity broke up
> > before
> > > the beginning of "history", sometime in the third
> > > millennium BCE, while still in the steppes of
> > Eurasia.
> > > This collectivity can be traced back into
> > > "prehistory", partly on linguistic, partly on
> > > archaeological grounds. Since the break occurred
> > long
> > > before the Indo-Aryans appeared in the Indian
> > > subcontinent as a notable presence, the
> > reconstruction
> > > and trace=back does not involve studying Indian or
> > > Iranian archaeological data.****
> >
> >
> > Check out what the Harvard archaeologist Lambarg
> > Karlovsky 2005.pdf
> > about the "Indo-Iranian" collectivity. Thanks!
> >
> > M. Kelkar
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> ****GK: I'm more interested in what Kyiv, Donetsk and
> Moscow archaeologists wrote and write about this.****>

Ok, no problem. In the mean time see what Dhavalikar an Indian
archaeologist says about Altyn Depe South East of Caspian Sea:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AltynDepeMap.jpg

""The (Central Asian) Altyn Depe evidence (of a society stratified by
occupation, Masson 1988) belongs to the third millennium whereas the
arrangement was in vogue in the Harappan townships from about
2600-2500 BC and it is therefore highly probable that the Harappans
may have influenced the Central Asians among whom the differences
became more rigid. This is all the more likely in view of the fact
that Harappan migrations westwards began from about 2200 BC
(Dhavalikar 2007, p. 105, parentheses added)."

aka The Indian Homeland Theory!

Dhavalikar, M. K. (2007). The aryans: myth and archaeology. New
Delhi: Munshiram Manoharlal Publishers Pvt. Ltd. ISBN: 81-215-1169-0

M. Kelkar

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