Re: PIE *a -- a preliminary checklist

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53127
Date: 2008-02-14

Perhaps you are traveling in different circles.

Patrick


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] PIE *a -- a preliminary checklist


> There virtually are no metropolitan centers in the
> South besides Atlanta and once upon a time, New
> Orleans, and if you want to consider Houston and DFW.
> Birmingham, Memphis, Nashville, Charlotte are getting
> there but they're still medium sized cities. I've
> heard the same pronunciations in those places as well
>
> --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
>
> > You are wrong as far as metropolitan centers are
> > concerned.
> >
> > The South has developed since last you evidently
> > heard.
> >
> > You would find that pronunciation in only very small
> > towns and villages.
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [tied] PIE *a -- a preliminary
> > checklist
> >
> >
> > > That's not a hick accent, it's the local accent
> > for
> > > that part of the US. Y'all don' tawk lack a Yankee
> > > now, duzya?
> > > I use to hear /ae/ > /ey/ all over that part of
> > the US
> > > from people of all professions --but only about a
> > > quarter to half did it.
> > > My favorite was: "hw@... kaena dreysin y'all wown
> > awn yo
> > > seil@..., reinc^ o freync^? Ae keyn neyvR teyl D@
> > > dif@..., Dey O sawn D@ seym."
> > >
> > > --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Not everyone here talks like a hick.
> > > >
> > > > Patrick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
> > > > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:08 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [tied] PIE *a -- a preliminary
> > > > checklist
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Wouldn't that be more like /@n neypL/ in your
> > neck
> > > > of
> > > > > the woods? :>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Unfortunately, only careful people use the
> > > > initial
> > > > > > glottal stop in my
> > > > > > experience.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hear more frequently /æn næpL/.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Patrick
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Rick McCallister"
> > <gabaroo6958@...>
> > > > > > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:46 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [tied] PIE *a -- a preliminary
> > > > > > checklist
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's interesting to hear --a few years
> > back
> > > > when
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > asked whether or not Gmc glottal stop was
> > a
> > > > relic
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > laryngeals, everyone told me no
> > > > > > > English, of course, still has glottal
> > stops
> > > > e.g.
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > apple /?aen ?aepL/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Richard Wordingham
> > > > > > <richard@...>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick
> > > > > > McCallister
> > > > > > > > <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If so, was there a stage when Gmc had
> > > > > > laryngeals?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Will a single one do? German has merged
> > > > initial
> > > > > > > > laryngeals to a
> > > > > > > > glottal stop, as had Old English.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Richard.
> > > > > > > >
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