Re: Re[4]: [tied] PIE *a -- a preliminary checklist

I hear that a lot too but it's a bit outside the
transition. I'm thinking the final /-t/ > /-?/ is more
of a Northern and Midwestern phenomenon. I've heard
it a lot on local TV in the North and Midwest


--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:

> You missed the one I have heard most often: /g&
> nait/.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Re[4]: [tied] PIE *a -- a preliminary
> checklist
>
>
> > True dat
> > See American English "good night" /gnay?/ /gud
> nay?/ <
> > /gud nay?t/ < /gud nayt/
> >
> >
> > --- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:
> >
> > > At 12:17:41 AM on Thursday, February 14, 2008,
> > > fournet.arnaud wrote:
> > >
> > > >>> I think the difference is glottal stop was a
> > > phoneme in
> > > >>> proto-Germanic
> > >
> > > >> Evidence?
> > >
> > > > Some sequences H2 + k / t become g / d
> > > > Some don't
> > >
> > > Examples, please.
> > >
> > > >>> Now do you think bu?er for butter is part of
> the
> > > >>> language? If yes, then it's phonemic in
> English
> > > too.
> > >
> > > >> Is it? Or is it just an allophone of /t/?
> > >
> > > > I don't think so different sounds can be
> > > allophones.
> > >
> > > It's not all that dissimilar. There's no doubt
> that
> > > in many
> > > varieties [?t] (simultaneous articulation) is an
> > > allophone
> > > of /t/, and [?] is just a short step away.
> > >
> > > > Otherwise /ng/ is an allophone of /h/
> > > > Complementary distribution.
> > > > People who make a regular use of -?- in bu?er
> > > > probably have other words where -?- contrasts
> > > > with -t-.
> > >
> > > 'Probably' isn't good enough, I'm afraid.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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