From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 53079
Date: 2008-02-14
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From: Patrick Ryan
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:14 PM
Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] *a/*a: ablaut
Many of Kuhn's so-called *a-words have cognates in Sumerian that have <a>.
Unless your proposing a Sumerian substrate in Europe, it is easier to assume
that, with a word like *bhar-, the <a> is original (Sumerian par).
Patrick
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The most obvious conclusion
is most of the words (listed by Kuhn)
are not cognates
but internal loanwords within PIE boundaries.
Cf. my own theory that PIE diaspora is at least
12 000 years old.
Arnaud
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quote: (Ablaut, a und Altertumskunde)
"
Im Ackerbau ist a ein häufigerer Laut. Da ist, nächst *ar- "pflügen"
samt *ar-trom "Pflug", vor allem das wichtige *agros "Acker", weiter
dann der verbreitete Getreidename *bhars-/bharis (lat. far "Spelz",
germ. *bariz "Gerste", dazu wohl auch griech. phe~ron "Nahrung" <
*bharsom), ferner lat. ador germ. *atisk- (s. oben), griech.
kãpos/ke~pos "Garten" germ. *ho:Bo: "Hufe", griech. áke:n germ.
*ah(a)no:/*ag(a)no: "Spreu" lat. agna "Ähre" samt lat. acus "Spreu"
germ. *ahs-/*ahiz "Ähre", griech. kaláme: germ. *halmaz altbulg. slama
"Halm, Stroh" (dazu lat. culmus < *calmus?).
"
and then *ghans- etc.
Torsten