From: Rick McCallister
Message: 53048
Date: 2008-02-14
> At 12:17:41 AM on Thursday, February 14, 2008,____________________________________________________________________________________
> fournet.arnaud wrote:
>
> >>> I think the difference is glottal stop was a
> phoneme in
> >>> proto-Germanic
>
> >> Evidence?
>
> > Some sequences H2 + k / t become g / d
> > Some don't
>
> Examples, please.
>
> >>> Now do you think bu?er for butter is part of the
> >>> language? If yes, then it's phonemic in English
> too.
>
> >> Is it? Or is it just an allophone of /t/?
>
> > I don't think so different sounds can be
> allophones.
>
> It's not all that dissimilar. There's no doubt that
> in many
> varieties [?t] (simultaneous articulation) is an
> allophone
> of /t/, and [?] is just a short step away.
>
> > Otherwise /ng/ is an allophone of /h/
> > Complementary distribution.
> > People who make a regular use of -?- in bu?er
> > probably have other words where -?- contrasts
> > with -t-.
>
> 'Probably' isn't good enough, I'm afraid.
>
> Brian
>
>
>