Re: The meaning of life: PIE. *gWiH3w-

It seems to me that the Gmc words for "rice" are from
Italian, which dropped the initial /ar/ of Arabic
ar-ruz. Arabs assumed that Greek oryza or whatever
form they adopted included the article al > ar-

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> >
> > On 2008-02-11 07:55, Rick McCallister wrote:
> >
> > > I'm just trying think how you could get from
> > > *bHr.h1g^o- to *wrugos, briza and vrihi
> >
> > I was only interested in explaining <briza> --
> conjecturally, since
> > given our limited knowledge of Thracian one could
> propose quite a
> > few speculative hypotheses, none of them
> verifiable (*bHr.zdH-ah2
> > has been proposed as well). I don't think the
> Balto-Slavic/Germanic
> > 'rye' word should be reconstructed with initial
> *wr- -- the Germanic
> > evidence clearly points to *rugHi- ~ *rugHjo- (no
> *w anywhere), and
> > the 'rice' word in Indo-Iranian is most likely a
> Dravidian loan, as
> > generally assumed.
>
> The Germanic words for "rice" clearly have no
> initial/w/ either.
> Therefore they shouldn't be confused with all those
> pre-IA
> *vrijhi-, Pashtu wriZE, Greek o'ryza, o'ryzon etc?
>
> > In other words, I'm against lumping all these
> terms together by
> > Procrustean means.
>
> Trying to fit a Wanderwort of a cultural item into a
> PIE tree would
> make Procrustes happy.
>
>
> Torsten
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