Re: The meaning of life: PIE. *gWiH3w-

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 52640
Date: 2008-02-11

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> Chinese has mai4 : cereal in general
> from mrïk
> ï can just be a delabialized u
> hence *mruk is structurally the same thing as *wrugh
> I would not cut the word in little bits
> if I were you.
> Looks like a cognate *m?rugh
> Arnaud
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Your Chinese speculations are totally unrelated to this discussion.
PR
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I always try to check if PIE reconstructions make sense
when compared with data from other families.
My confidence in a PIE root increases
when outside comparison does make sense.
Arnaud
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> Now you have prefixes !? and preformatives ? for PIE
>
> I remember you recently asserted
> PIE_has_NO_prefixes
> or something like that.
>
> Arnaud
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You chose to forget what you have read; and then you regurgitate back what
you hope to have read.
PR
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I did read it from you
ARnaud
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I will go through this once more in greater detail than I did for Torsten.
[...]
PPPIE had the forms: *Ci. *Ca, *Cu, *CiC, *CaC, and *CuC as roots.
PR
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Lacks *o in the stock.
Arnaud
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Thus, I consider HS *ro(:)g- to be equivalent to PIE *réugh-, 'tangled
hair/fur', a description of 'rye'.

To *réugh- the formant -*yó was added which took the stress-accent from the
first syllable and put it in zero-grade, meaning whatever the result of the
Ablautvokal, in this case *é, that result disappears: *rughyé-.
PR
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Thank you for explaining your own theory
but I still disagree with too many basic facts.
Arnaud
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This discussion started out with your scoffing at the correspondence of
vowels in PIE because _you_ could not see how PIE *ú in *(w)rúghyo- could
correspond to the í in Thracian bríza.
PR
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You always have that stalinistic bias of twisting and distorting
the other person's statements
beyond the limits of caricature.
Discussion would be easier if you could focus on data and your own theories
instead of inventing some absurd and insulting interpretation of my point of
view
that I have never written nor implied.

I never wrote it *corresponds*
i and u are two different vowels.
I wrote variant forms :
wrugh-
wrigh-

Arnaud
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