Re: The meaning of life: PIE. *gWiH3w-

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 52612
Date: 2008-02-11

I'm intrigued about this root.
Here's what I found at "Rice" on Wikipedia.
I plead ignorance, so tell me why the Dravidian root
looks more like your putative IE root than the
Indo-iranian form does.

According to the Microsoft Encarta Dictionary (2004)
and the Chambers Dictionary of Etymology (1988), the
word rice has an Indo-Iranian origin. It came to
English from Greek óryza, via Latin oriza, Italian
riso and finally Old French ris (the same as present
day French riz).

It has been speculated that the Indo-Iranian vrihi
itself is borrowed from a Dravidian vari (< PDr.
*warinci)[6] or even a Munda language term for rice.
The Tamil name ar-risi may have produced the Arabic
ar-ruzz, from which the Portuguese and Spanish word
arroz originated.

Note 6. Krishnamurti, Bhadriraju (2003) The Dravidian
Languages Cambridge University Press, Cambridge. ISBN
0-521-77111-0 at p. 5.

--- Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

> On 2008-02-10 22:57, fournet.arnaud wrote:
>
> >
> > PIE *urughyo- is _not_ a PIE root!
> > PR
> > ============
> > Pokorny : p. 1183
> > It is a PIE Root *wrugh
> > Variant form wrigh- (Thrakian)
>
> *wrugHjo- is a ghost root. All that is warranted by
> Germanic and
> Balto-Slavic is *rugHi- ~ *rugHjo-. Germanic, in
> particular, shows no
> evidence of *wr-, which is a strong argument against
> an initial *w in
> this root. Thrac. (?) briza is a poor match and one
> can't simply
> _assume_ that it's a cognate of *rugHjo- just
> because it may mean 'rye'.
> How can you rule out the possibility that the
> initial <b-> reflects *bH,
> or that the <-z-> comes something entirely different
> from *-gHj-? Even a
> connection with *bHr.h1g^-o- 'white' is formally
> more plausible.
>
> Piotr
>
>
>
>



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