Re: The meaning of life: PIE. *gWiH3w-

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 52599
Date: 2008-02-10

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> ***
> Perhaps from any link?
> You have no panache.
> PR
> ========
> I usually don't have panaché either.
> I prefer beer.
> Arnaud
> ============
>
> It is quite obvious no new information is allowed to intrude on your
> Weltbild.
> PR
> ===========
> I recently accepted your connection
> of Latin ador with Egyptian ?_t
> Coptic eiôt < ?at?-
>
> ***

Merçi beaucoup, tera-fois

***
>
> > > PIE *gwem does not exist.
> > > the root is *gw
> > > with two extensions : gw_H2 and gw_m.
> > > And Meillet does not reject gw_n- for LAtin.
> > > A third one.
> > >
> > > Arnaud
> > ==============
> >
> > That is where you are wrong.
> > ============
> > I disagree with you.
> > I could say the same.
> > Arnaud
> > ================
>
> ***
>
> Why not try proving something with data rather than imagining your ideas
> have any reality outside of your own head?
>
> ***
>
> > No root in PIE consists of a single consonant; the very shortest are
> > *CV,
> > e.g. *me.
> > ============
> > I disagree.
> > there is no *me "root".
> > *me and (He)gh(-o) are the same root.
> > me stems out of ngga?u-aH1
> > where instrumental -aH1 attracted stress
> > hence caused a syllabic implosion
> > and nggw-eH1 > me(:).
> > (He)-gho stems out of ngga?u
> > Arnaud
> > ===========
>
> ***
>
> Wrong again! It is true that some languages use *nqo, 'skull/head', for
> 'I';
> others use *na, 'one'; others *mo, '(hu)man'; others *k?e, 'male', and, a
> few like PIE use *¿e, 'speak(er)'.
>
> PIE *Heg^- is from *?a-k?e, 'this male'.
>
> Also, there is _no_ instrumental in PIE with -*aH1.
>
> Are you unable to buy the appropriate manuals for these studies?
>
> ***
>
> > If you want to write *gW_H2, be my guest but no PIE root has no *V.
> > P.R
> > ===========
> > It's no use writing -e-.
> > Only the skeleton of consonants makes sense.
> > C_C is the same thing as CeC.
> > Try to think half a millimeter above the surface of things.
> > Arnaud
> > =================
>
> ***
>
> I suggest a nanometer scale for you.
>
> *C_C- is not the same thing as *CéC- because
>
> 1) it neglects long vowels;
>
> 2) it ignores attested vowels in descendant languages;
>
> 3) and, with a context like verbal root, it conveys nothing.
>
> Whether you have it so organized in your head or not, (P)IE dictionaries
> use
> the perfect verbal root as the citation form: *CéC.
>
> If you do not like it, talk to Pokorny.
>
> ***
>
> > In this case, the PPIE root was *gWa- to which *H (*?) was added,
> > lengthening it to *a: and preserving its central quality.
> >
> > Without lengthening, *gWa- became *gWé- when combined with other
> > formants:
> > *gWéw-, *gWéy-.
> >
> > What is your basis for saying *gWem- does not exist?
> > =============
> > The root is *gw_
> > which can be incremented into : *gw_H2 ; *gw_m ; *gw_n
> > Arnaud
> > ============
>
> ***
>
> You are being characterically obtuse.
>
> If the form was *gw_H2, there would be no vowel for *H2 to 'color'.
>
> ***
>
> characterically !?
> A new word ?
>
> Maybe you should avoid complicated words
> like obtuse if you can't use basic words.
>
> Arnaud
> =========================


***

Maybe you should buy a better dictionary.

It certainly (check that for me, will you?) is found in AHD.

Oops! I see. A typo! characteristically

Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

How could I ever go to Walmart and hope to cope without the word
characteristically?


Patrick