From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 52444
Date: 2008-02-07
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Attila, Etzel (was: Alanic horseman)
> So you're saying the Edsel was the Attila of cars?
>
>
> --- tolgs001 <george_st@...> wrote:
>
> > >It was a nasal stem, so from the strictly formal
> > point of view it
> > >should have been something like **atilo:N/**atilen-
> > >
> > >**otIly/**otIlen-, perhaps eventually levelled out
> > to **otIlenI. But
> > >if the Slavs understood the meaning of the name,
> > they might have used
> > >their native *atiko- > *otIcI, just replacing the
> > Gothic diminutive
> > >suffix with a Slavic one.
> > >
> > >Piotr
> >
> > If -ila (or -illa, as modern Turks spell it) was a
> > diminutival suffix.
> > But what if Attila did not have the meaning ata
> > "father" + -ila? What
> > if it had to do (e.g. as a hypothesis) with Atil,
> > Itil, Etil "Volga"?
> > (Or a similar river.) Or a third (unknown) meaning.
> >
> > NB: various pronuciations/spellings in early texts:
> > Ethele, Etzel
> > (including the oldest Hungarian medieval chronicles
> > as well as the
> > German 'Niebelungenlied').
> >
> > George
> >
> >
>
>
>
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