Re: 7-minute ITCH

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 52288
Date: 2008-02-04

Piotr, thank you. That is very helpful.

One more question if you do not mind.

Are there any instances of which you know where an initial *H passes into
*y.


Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] 7-minute ITCH


> On 2008-02-04 21:47, Patrick Ryan wrote:
>
> > I ran across some interesting implications connected with 'itch'.
> >
> > AHD says it is unattested in PIE but presumably from a unattested
> > Germanic
> > *yuk-.
>
> Why unattested? The Germanic cognates of OE giccan point to *juk-ja-, so
> the verb stem IS attested.
>
> > Do you think it might have a PIE antecedent in PIE *yeug^-, 'be stirred
> > up'?
>
> Why not? LIV has *jeug^(h)- 'unruhig werden' (the evidence for the final
> laryngeal is restricted to what looks like the reflex of an infixed
> *jug^-ne-h- in Tocharian). *jug^-je/o- is a perfectly possible
> derivative, though LIV doesn't mention it (nor does Pokorny). Goth.
> jiukan < *jeuk-a- < *jeug^-e/o- means 'fight', but there is no
> unabridgeable semantic chasm between 'get restless' and 'itch'.
>
> Piotr
>
>