On 2008-02-04 22:27, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
> ISOLATED? BARDZA is isolated too...and is an INHERITED WORD
> What theory you apply here?
No, it isn't inherited. It's a borrowing from Proto-Albanian into the
dialect of Latin that was to become Romanian. The INHERITED words in
Romanian are those of Latin origin. In Romance terms, the Romanian
'stork' word means nothing. It's only when you compare it with its
Albanian cousin that it begins to make sense and becomes etymologisable.
> NEXT: ISOLATED or NOT, STRAIE WAS THE MAIN WORD FOR 'CLOTHES' TILL
> XIX (when /haine/ became the main word)
So what?
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>
> THE OCS main meaning of 'strojiti' was "to BUILD" DOT.
>
> => nowhere in OCS a meaning 'clothes' is attested
Did I say it was borrowed from OCS?
> We have attested strojite'lU 'builder' strojiti 'to build'
>
> Neither in OCS or in South Slavic a meaning 'clothes' existed at that
> time.
> And I really doubt on a meaning 'clothes' as a Common Slavic meaning
> too.
>
> I don't know why you are talking about 'Polish meanings' etc...for a
> supposed Old Slavic Loan in Romanian => This is purely 'ad-hoc'
The earliest meaning was 'arrangement, assembly' etc. The verb root from
which the whole family is derived meant something like 'lay out,
arrange, order, join together', very much like Lat. struo: (apparently a
cognate). Note the history of Eng. dress 'clothing', which comes from
the verb <dress> 'clothe, adorn', which comes from ME dressen 'arrange,
put on', which comes from OFr. drecier 'arrange' (ultimately from Latin
di:rectus). This case is perfectly parallel to the semantic development
of Pol. strój, and the same scenario may have been reenacted many times
in different languages. I have no good dictionaries of South Slavic
languages to hand, but according to Bernstein <stroj> can mean something
'clothing' in Serbo-Croatian (Mate, is that right? I'm sure it can mean
'machine' and 'formation' but can't verify less common meanings quickly).
Piotr