Re: PS Emphatics

From: squilluncus
Message: 52233
Date: 2008-02-03

> > Strive strove striven is **NOT** inherited.
> >
>
> Strive strove striven ***IS*** inherited.
> As you will have noticed, I have framed the operative verb with an
> extra set of asterisks. This is so that everybody will be induced by
> the power of the asterisk to realize that I'm right and you're
wrong.
>
>
> Torsten

1. sträva, vb, O. Petri: sträffuar
emoot = no.-da., ä. da. straewe, från mlty.
streven, vara styv, sträcka sig, resa sig
i höjden, sträva = mhty., ty. streben
(varav da. strwbe), av germ. *strit>önt till
föreg., avljudsform till mty. striben, ä. j
Jioll. strijven, sträva, varav ffra. estriver,
strida (****varav**** eng. strive, sträva, kämpa,
jfr str i f e, strid).
(my asterisks/L.)

Hellquist with his "whereoff" seems to believe that eng. strive has
come via Old French. On what grounds?

Online Etymology Dictionary agrees and as for "strife":

c.1225, from O.Fr. estrif, variant of estrit "quarrel, dispute,
impetuosity," probably from Frank. *strid, from P.Gmc. *strido-
"strife, combat" (cf. O.H.G. strit "quarrel, dispute"), related to
O.H.G. stritan "to fight;" see stride.

Both strive and strife first seen in the beginning of the 13th
century. No traces before?

Lars