Re: Limitations of the comparative method

If you had the answer, why did you bother asking the question?

Also, I did not say that xrusos was from PIE; only that Greek /x/ generally
derives from PIE *gh.

I have written that I am currently working on a Proto-Afrasian corrected
phonology based on the material in Orel & Stobova so who says I am only
working with Arabic? You? How would you know?

You may believe if you choose that xrusos comes from Hebrew Harûz but I
prefer to believe that it is a unique derivation from PIE *ghre:u-(**s-).
Why would the Greeks need to borrow a word for 'gold'?

Do you have access to the argumentation supporting it as a loan?

I could perhaps be convinced.


Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Limitations of the comparative method


> Greek xrusos is a loanword from Semitic, it's not from
> IE anything
> That's why you need to know more than just Arabic if
> you want to link Arabic to IE
>
> --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
>
> > It is not dhaHab (dotted-h) but dahab, simple h.
> >
> > Greek x generally cpmes from PIE *gh.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Limitations of the
> > comparative method
> >
> >
> > > re: gold
> > > Arabic, as I remember is dhaHab and Tigrinya is
> > dahab
> > > --I had a friend in college with that name
> > > Greek xrusos is supposed from Phoenician. What was
> > the
> > > source?
> > > It might fit in to your *Ha(:)w(e)s-
> > >
> > > --- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > ***
> > > > >
> > > > > The better reconstruction for Latin aurum,
> > 'gold',
> > > > is *Ha(:)w(e)s-,
> > > > > 'illuminate', the color associated with
> > _golden_
> > > > dawn as Pokorny so
> > > > > correctly has it.
> > > > =========
> > > > Tsalam? t?ob
> > > >
> > > > This reconstruction does not conflict with
> > *zahav
> > > >
> > > > Arnaud
> > > > ================
> > > > >
> > > > > To abstract "H2_H2_w" from zahab (what is with
> > the
> > > > Hebrew? Arabic has kept
> > > > > it all together much more smartly) is
> > unbelievably
> > > > bizarre and
> > > > > incontrovertibly unjustifed.
> > > > ==========
> > > > I am afraid you have not looked at data
> > carefully
> > > > enough
> > > > What about :
> > > > Georgian zibziba "wheat"
> > > > Latin av-esna "oats"
> > > > Hittite seppi [sebi] "wheat"
> > > > LAtin (substrate) sab-aia "bier"
> > > >
> > > > Hittite keeps trace of -z- as -s-
> > > > and of -dz- as -zz-.
> > > > Look at Hittite once again
> > > > now that you have the key.
> > > >
> > > > Arnaud
> > > > ==============
> > > > > Pray tell where a table of correspondences
> > > > enabling anything like what was
> > > > > reconstructed is published. I will buy one
> > because
> > > > it certainly will be
> > > > > rare.
> > > > >
> > > > > Patrick
> > > > >
> > > > > ***
> > > > ========
> > > > Just be patient.
> > > >
> > > > Arnaud
> > > > ===========
> > > >
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