Re: IS PIE * DERU EXCLUSIVELY INDO-EUROPEAN ?

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 51917
Date: 2008-01-27

The only thing I agree with is maybe I should chill out,
But quite obviously I won't be able to,
For the rest,
I am afraid on the Richter Scale of Beat-Ruhlen fancies,
you are scoring very high.
The highest among current active mail-senders on the spot
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You wrote : Etymology of Bitumen
"the Arabic word btm for bitumen appears to be a straightforward candidate, pointing to a definite Semitic source for the word."
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LOL !
The root btm is an obvious recent loanword from French,
that has less than a half century of existence in Arabic.
It's not even listed in LArousse Dictionnaire an-nasil de l'arabe.
You advised to look in Lisan al Arab in a previous mail,
So why don't you go get B_t_m in Lisan !
B_t_m is described as being j_b_l : a mountain !!
Arabic native word for bitumen is zift.
Your Beat-Ruhlen score : 9 / 10.
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Now when it comes to the word "tree",
and its fancy connection with "true",
something IE comparatists believe in.
 
Chinese zhen1 "true" from *dar-in
shows than the root of true is *d_r
with a voiced dental stop.
 
The word "tree" is from *?_r
a verb meaning "to stand upright"
LAtin ar-bor < *?er-dh-or "the one that stands upright"
Tokharian ore
The verb of medio-passive meaning can get an extra
pleonastic #t?- addition, becoming #t?-?_r 
fused as t?_r hence *d_r in most PIE languages
BUT
North caucasian has t:aru with a long initial
in some languages !
And
Greek dendron is to *d_r
what pimplemi is to *p_l
 
The conclusion :
the fancy connection between *d_r "true" and *?_r
is bad.
 
This time you perform bad
but you have been lured by
orthodox PIE fancies
Your Beat-Ruhlen score : 2 / 10.
 
Arnaud
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