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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> Mate Kapoviæ wrote:
>
> > Well, "I'll fuck your mother" definitely *sounds* like a curse...
> > In Croatia, we have a version of this one including the dog.
> May you be "blessed/cursed" by a dog? We have it too (<pies cie,
> jebal/>), and the phrase must be quite old. Samuel Linde's
> monumental Dictionary of the Polish Language (1815) has it (Linde
> was an undaunted lexicographer, too much in love with words to
> regard anything as taboo).
The phrase is old, no doubt... What was until recently the oldest
recorded curse in Slavic contains exactly such a phrase. In a letter
to the citizens of Sibiu the voevoda Alexander, a son of the ruler of
Wallachia Mircha (1386-1418), says:
"+ Sibincem vysem. ... Da zashto sme stoiali protiva pogani ezik, a
vie ni podvigate zli rechi, kako se otmetnahme ot gospodina krale i
dadohmo se tourcem. Togo radi nie slouzhimo gospodinou kralju i
svetomou vencou, i da spodobi bogy, da se priblizhit gospodiny kral,
da stanemo pred nim, DA KTO SHTE SLYGATI, DA MOU EBE P(')S' ZHENOU I
MATERE MOU. Aze i poidoh ou tourci, poidoh za moa nevola, i ouchinih
pokoi zemi, koliko es ostanala, i vysem vamy, i izvadih si g~ haliadi
robie, ..."
( p. 50-51 in: L. Miletich, Dako-romynite i tjahnata slavjanska
pismenost'. Novi vlaho-bylgarski gramoti ot Brashovy. Chast' II,
1896.
http://www.kroraina.com/knigi/lm/lm_6a.htm#g12 ,
http://www.kroraina.com/knigi/lm/gal/051.html )