Re: Brugmann's Law

I think you can see why suttee might have been preferable.

The thing that frustrates me is that I cannot discover much data for a hypothetical etymology of *kWeru-. If Egyptian X3r.t be related, the root idea is 'squat' (which fits perhaps, semantically) but this is based only on the first element (XHO). If the Egyptian -3- be merely indicating a long vowel as I think likely, the IE would have to be emended to *kWo(:)r-u-, which is not bad with the linguistic facts we have.

We would expect an Arabic equivalent of sha?/h/Hala.

Patrick

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick McCallister

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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:28 PM

Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Brugmann's Law

It makes sense given the relationshion between for
words for orphan and slave.

--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@ msn.com> wrote:

> I am afraid some of our ancestors were real
> Neanderthals.
>
> Yes. I believe the Bible refers to widows as
> gleaners.
>
> Another reason is Egyptian X3r.t, 'widow', where X
> can corresponds to PIE *gW or *kW.
>
>
> Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick
> McCallister< mailto:gabaroo6958@ yahoo.com>
> To:
>
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> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Brugmann's Law
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>
> Like the widows of India who are forced into
> prostitution in the movue Rain?
>
> --- Patrick Ryan
>
<proto-language@ msn.com<mailto:proto-language@ msn.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > I am inclined to regard the Slavic as deriving
> from
> > IE *kWeru-, which I think may be connected with
> the
> > idea of 'widowhood', perhaps with more distant
> > relationships to 'gleaning.
> >
> > This is a pejorative rather than an admirative
> term
> > like *kaH-ro, 'very desired'.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Piotr
> >
>
Gasiorowski< mailto:gpiotr@... edu.pl<mailto:gpiotr% 40ifa.amu. edu.pl>>
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> > To:
> >
>
>
cybalist@... s.com<mailto:cybalist% 40yahoogroups. com><mailto:cybalist@... s.com<mailto:cybalist% 40yahoogroups. com>>
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> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Brugmann's Law
> >
> >
> > On 2008-01-18 02:53, Rick McCallister wrote:
> >
> > > kura (sp?) is obviously related to English
> > whore, ho
> > > and German hure
> >
> > This is unlikely, despite the similarity. The
> > (pan-)Slavic word is
> > <kurva>, apparently continuing an older *u: stem
> > (*kury/*kurUve) . The
> > Germanic one, *xo:ro:(n-) seems to go back to
> > *kah2-ro- (cf. ca:rus,
> > Skt. ka:ma-). There's no way of deriving Slavic
> > *kury from this root
> > (Slavic *u normally comes from older *ou/*au).
> If
> > it were not for the
> > initial, I'd suspect a borrowing from Germanic
> (as
> > others have done),
> > but that would surely have given Slavic *xury.
> >
> > Vasmer suggests *kury was an old feminine
> > derivative of *kurU 'cock,
> > rooster' originally meaning 'hen' (now generally
> > replaced by <kura,
> > kurica>). He gives the pair *svek(U)rU : *svekry
> > as the model (it's
> > hardly a productive pattern, but *-u: stems are
> > common among bird's
> > names). I am not sure what to make of the word.
> > Every time I think about
> > its etymology, I feel like saying it (as an
> > expletive, it is used in
> > Polish to express chagrin or frustration, rather
> > like Eng. f***!).
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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