Re: Brugmann's Law

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 51316
Date: 2008-01-16

 
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From: Patrick Ryan
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Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: Re: Re: [tied] Brugmann's Law

 
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: [tied] Brugmann's Law

I agree :
some times you learn more about the author.
 
What about :
Arabic &aqrub
Greek skorpion
 
 
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What about it? ?aqrub is simply a noun form (?aCCuC) of the root q-r-b.
PCR
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I agree even more
most of the time you learn more about the author.
 
Root q_r_b is the same as in (s-)k_r_p
the p in scorpion is another example of correspondance with -b-.
That was what I meant.
Arnaud
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Arabic [?] "glottal stop" is one of the form of H2.
And so are most glottalized emphatics of Semitic
excepted p? > PIE *b and t? fused with d > PIE *d
And k? fused with *g.
 
?ans "a man" = H2ner
Etc
Those who think H1 is [?] would better change their minds
as soon as possible.
They are on the wrong track.
 
Arnaud
 
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There is no *H1, *H2, *H3 (nor *H4), IMHO.
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I don't understand this statement
Quite obviously most IE languages keep traces of at least three different classes of phonemes, that have had different impacts on their surroundings :
length, voice, color, tone, etc.
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The language from which PIE developed had four laryngeal/pharyngea ls: /?/, /h/, /¿/, and /h./;
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It had at least these.
And some others.
"Laryngeals" is a misleading word
Not all disappeared phonemes are "laryngeal"
they are functionally "laryngeal" but phonetically
they are not "laryngeal".
Arnaud
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and three vowels: /e/, /a/, /o/.
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Arnaud
Obviously wrong.
[a] is just allophonic of /e/.
or vice-versa.
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/?/ and /h/ and /h./ become PIE *H which lengthens the vowel, subsequently maintaining its quality. *e:, *a:, and *o: can subsequently be shortened.
/¿/ becomes *y but occasionally *ø with vowel lengthening.
Initial *ø becomes /?/ in the Germanic branch of IE.
Conventionally written *H2ner- derived from earlier **hano-r(o), 'strong' (Egyptian nr, 'fear inspiring').
Patrick
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This is non sense
Not a word of it is worth considering
Arnaud
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