Re: Dutch/vlaams (was [tied] Etruscans)

From: tgpedersen
Message: 51302
Date: 2008-01-16

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tgpedersen
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 9:12 PM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: Dutch/vlaams (was [tied]
Etruscans)
>
>
> ===================
> > Torsten
> > Stay on the point. Do you have information that refutes the claim
> > made here that the Dutch-speaking area in the 7th-8th century
> > included Boulogne?
> > ===========
> > Arnaud
> >
> > Pt 1 : Germanic invaders around Boulogne / mer are Saxons.
> >
> > The area around Boulogne/mer has been invaded by Saxons,
> > within a radius of about 30 km between 500 and 600.
> > The place-names have distinctly Saxon : AltSaechsisch features.
> > Audresselles : Oderselle (1075) < Auda-Hari-seel : seel not
> > saal.
> > Selles < Selis (826)
>
> Do you have a source on this?
>
> > People who claim this area once was Dutch are grossly
> > under-informed.
>
> Please inform me.
>
> Torsten
>
> ===========
> There are a couple of interesting maps at this address
> and following pages :
> http://www.mdsk.net/histb_fr.html
> If you have some trouble with French
> I can help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Frankish

Would you like to comment on this quote from your source?
"
Dans les ports de la côte flamande, le dialecte utilisé par les
marchands de la Mer du Nord est l'ANGLO-FRISON. Les caractéristiques
anglo-frisonnes se retrouveront plus tard dans le Germanique de la Mer
du Nord qui connaîtra son apogée vers l'an 1000 sur les côtes de la
Baltique et de la Mer du Nord.
"

Anglo-Frisian? Coasts of the Baltic?


Torsten