Re: Old Dutch words

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 51293
Date: 2008-01-15

I found this on Lang-L archives

Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:27:44 -0500
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Subject: Re: Etymology of "slon"
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>Vasmer derives this word from Turkic _a(r)slan_
'lion'. Hasan Eren,
>in his 1999 Turkish etymological dictionary, notes
under the entry
>for "a(r)slan" that this etymology is held as
untenable in "Ivanov
>(Etimologija 1975, 157)" - but my problem is that
Eren's bibliography
>does not contain anything corresponding to this
reference. Would any
>of my fellow SEELANGers have any idea as to what this
could be? It
>does not seem to be a book (unlisted in
melvyl.ucop.edu), and I have
>already checked what came to my mind first: V. V.
Ivanov and
>_Slavjanskoe i balkanskoe jazykoznanie_ - he has an
article in the
>1975 volume, but that is not it.
>--

Dear Kjetil,
It's an article by V.V.Ivanov, "Nazvanija slona v
jazykax Evrazii, 1-3",
pp. 148-161 in the 1975 volume [published in 1977] of:

Title: Etimologiia.
Published: Moskva, Nauka.
Description: v. 22 cm.
1963-

Subjects: Slavic
languages--Etymology--Periodicals.
Language and languages--Etymology--Periodicals.
Other Names: Institut russkogo iazyka (Akademiia
nauk SSSR)
Notes: Issues for 1963-19<67> have various subtitles.
Issued by Instytut Russkogo IAzyka of Akademiia Nauk
SSSR.
ISSN: 0425-4635
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Location: Olin Library
Call Number: PG2571 .A315
Status: Not Charged
Volumes : 1963-1968,1970-1997/1999
--

Wayles Browne, Assoc. Prof. of Linguistics
Department of Linguistics
Morrill Hall 220, Cornell University
Ithaca, New York 14853, U.S.A.

--- ualarauans <ualarauans@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud"
> <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
> >
> > it reads : olifant = slan
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Piotr Gasiorowski
> > To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:07 PM
> > Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] Re:
> Old Dutch words
> >
> >
> > On 2008-01-15 19:58, fournet.arnaud wrote:
> >
> > > Another word means "elephant" !!
> > > It is worse.
> >
> > What is that 'elephant' word?
>
> It's much better. It's Russian slon, probably <
> Turkic a[r]slan
>
>



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