>A loanword like mantya should be **mez- not magy-ar
>Hungarian gy usually stems from dzh as in job=dzhob
>as shown by numerous Turcic loanwords.
>You need to start with something like *mandza or *mandzha
>there is no reason to suppose this is a loanword from Baltic
>It definitely looks like an inherited word.
>And How could such a loanword end up in Ugric ?
>
>Arnaud
Persian chroniclers of the 10th c. called them Majghars.
Two centuries later, king Be´la's anonymous notary P.
wrote "mogerii":
"...ita et genealogiam regum hungarie et nobilium suorum
qualiter septem principales persone que __hetumoger__ uocantur
de terra scithica descenderunt, ..."
[hetu -> he´t "seven"]
"...populus de terra scithica egressus per ydioma alienigenarum
hungarij et in sua lingua propria __mogerij__ uocantur tibi
scriberem."
(Chronicon Anonymi Bele Regis Notarii, Gesta Hungarum. Incipit
prologus in gesta hungarum)
"Scithia igitur maxima terra est que __dentumoger__ dicitur..."
"Qua propter septem principales persone, qui __hetumoger__ dicti sunt..."
(idem, 1th chapter De Scithia)
George