Re: IE & Uralic

Most western Uralic people have an indo-european name :

lud : from liud "Leute"

Mordv : from mord "mortal"

ud -murt- : same as above

It is quite clear that western Uralic has spread upon an area

where IE languages were already present.

Arnaud

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick McCallister

To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:12 PM

Subject: Re: [tied] Re: IE & Uralic

My understanding is that Baltic languages were once
spoken in what's now Moscow. If so, Baltic would have
formed a buffer between the Slavs and Uralic spekers,
So there probably was a Uralic substrate in the Baltic
substrate of Eastern Slavic.
So the old consensus of the Slavs coming out of the
Pripyat is no longer common?

--- ualarauans <ualarauans@... com> wrote:
...
> Afaik there's no general consensus about the
> urheimat of the Slavs,
> but what seems more or less a shared opinion is that
> they didn't
> originate in the would-be East Slavic area, at the
> very least not
> where the Fennic substrate is detectable. Historical
> times
> (assimilation of Fennic groups of Northeast Europe
> by coming Slavs,
> since 8-9th ct. CE) are too late for abl. > gen.,
> I'd say. Correct me
> if I'm misunderstanding something.
. . .

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