Re: Similarities in Caucasian languages to Indo-European

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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> From: Peter P
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> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:47 AM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] [tied] Re: Similarities in

Caucasian languages to Indo-European

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "afyangh" <fournet.arnaud@> wrote:
> FU
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> 5 - *viite/*vitte
> 10 - *luka
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> Häkkinen in her etymological dictionary discourages trying to equate
> Finnish 'kämmen' hand and 'kymmenen' 10 "for reasons of sound change
> mixture".
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> Arnaud
> What does "discourage" mean ?
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I misquoted her a little above.

From p. 133 of Nykysuomen sanakirja 6 - Etymologinen sanakirja

Under 'kymmenen' 10

...Sanaa on aiemmin arveltu kämmen-sanan variantiksi, jolloin
yhdistävä merkityselementi voisi olla viittaus sormien lukumäärään.
Tämä selitys on kuitenkin mm. ääneseikkojen nojalla torjuttu. ...

Of the word, it was previously thought to be variant of the word kämen
in so far as the uniting element of meaning may be a sign towards the
sum of fingers. However this explanation on the basis of sound
manipulations among others, is denied.

Interesting, that she uses the word lukumäärä – sum (total) < *luka, 10

Peter P

> I suppose Uralic "had the right" to have vocalic apophony
> in a given consonantal skeleton.
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