Re: apples on a stick

evidently Middle Eastern quince leaves something to be
desired in terms of taste, so after they spit it out,
they use it as an adhesive
sort of like otameal in the US
or atol, pinol or horchata here in El Salvador


--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:

> The striking similarity of the Akkadian supurgillu
> to superglue leads me to ask if any cuneiform record
> remains of reducing quince pulp (by heating?) for
> use as a superior adhesive?
>
> I have checked Lisan for safarjal but it gives only:
> "merde de bouche". Was the quince perhaps chewed
> before heating?
>
> Patrick Ryan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tgpedersen<mailto:tgpedersen@...>
> To:
>

cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com>

>
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] apples on a stick
>
>
> --- In
>

cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com>,

> "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Arnaud to Wonder Warthogs :
> >
> > I am still in need of some good old explanations
>
> > about this one and only word for the "apple"
> thing.
> > I will be gladdestmost to understand what :
> >
> > *abel, *(u-)mar, *maH2-l, *waH1-l and sagar
> >
> > have in common ??
> > You mean these are one word ??
> > What could a proto-word accounting for these
> data sound like ?
> > Please suggest something.
> > Don't be afraid. Be laughable does not kill.
> >
> > I quote :
> > ========
> > "How anybody would show that this is not a
> > Wanderwort (ie.> well-traveled loanword) I can't
> fathom.
> > Torsten
> > ===========
> > They do not look at all like one and only
> word...
> > they aren't a wanderwort because they aren't
> even one same word.
> >
> > Please explain this story about a well-travelled
> loanword.
> >
> > I love stories and fairytales.
> >
> > Arnaud
> > ===================
> >
> >
> http://tinyurl.com/2pj8qo<http://tinyurl.com/2pj8qo>
> >
> > Mordvin : (u-)mar "apple"
> > (NB : not a loanword from indo-iranian : should
> be mal)
> >
> >
> http://tinyurl.com/yu2cs4<http://tinyurl.com/yu2cs4>
>
> > PIE : maH2l "apple"
> >
> >
> http://tinyurl.com/2h9rnv<http://tinyurl.com/2h9rnv>
> >
> > Kartvelian : *wash-l
> > I will reconstruct this one step further as
> > *waH1-l
>
> I have tinyurl-ed your references for you, you
> should do it yourself
> in the future.
>
> > Anatolian : sam-l-
> >
> > Basque : sagar
> >
>
> And for quince, it seems, Akkadian supurgillu,
> Arabic safarjal.
>
> Here's my try, including all the above:
>
> *(s^)an,W(a)l-
>
> Torsten
>
>
>
>
>

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