Re: Cognates & etymology of English net

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:

>
> On 2007-11-13 23:31, stlatos wrote:
>
> > If *nad+ = *nx,d+ / *naxd+ then the derivative *nx,dti+s might

have

> > become *natti+z in Gmc ...
>
> But the -tt- occurs only in West Germanic (as in OE nett-), where

it

> reflects the regular WGmc. gemination before *j (*natja- > *nattja-
> ). The Gmc. forms go back to n. *nat-ja- ~ f. *nat-jo:. Their
> relationship with Lat. nassa can't be direct; the latter may
> reflect *nad-ta:, possibly with */nhd-/ as in lassus < *l&1d-to-.

Udolph (Namenkundliche Studien zum Germanenproblem, I don't have the
book here) looks at river names in *not-, Notiec etc (cf. german
nass, Dutch nat "wet"). In order to save Germania for the Germani he
has to posit a proto-proto-Germanic 'backward' shift *t > *d etc,
before Grimm's *d > *t, to explain the embarrassing fact that
Germania has those names with *t. That can't be right; it seems the
root is non-IE.


Torsten