From: stlatos
Message: 50393
Date: 2007-10-21
> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: tonsls <ton.sales@...>
> Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Enviadas: Sábado, 20 de Outubro de 2007 8:51:59
> Assunto: Re: [tied] swallow vs. nighingale
> > refer to magical incantations in Germanic
>
> > [. . . ] This sense, possibly, is what we find in *naxti-Galan-
>
> > (*-gHal-on-) , given the inadvertent yet strong effect of the
>
> > nightingale' s song on the human brain.
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:
>
> Perhaps luscioniolus was affected by russus "red, purple", giving
*russiniolus.
>
> luscinia < *lus-can-ia < *luks-kan-ia ? or dissimilated from
*nokts-kan-ia, parallel to *naxtigalan ?
I'm not fully certain this comes from PIE, but if it does then the
best possibility would be:
* n,kWt + kanon+ 'night-singing (bird)'
with *kanon+ as in > hen, etc.
In Latin n, > un after xW and before KW as *xWn,gWmn, > unguen
'salve' so it's possible that n, > nu before KW C C.
Then dissimilation n-n-n > l-n-n would be possible. There are no
other examples, but t>s between K_K would fit with other sim. rules.
As for *kanon+ itself, it could be that *-kenen- > *-ken- by
haplology in compounds like tibi:cen. Grammar would require -nn- in
the weak stem, probably restored by analogy from -n- after
degemination, and though -nn- > -ny- seems unlikely, no other sonorant
might have been allowed in that position at the time.
* n,kWtkann+
* n,kWskann+
* nukWskann+
* lukWskann+
* lukWskany+
* lukskany+
* luskany+
In Germanic dissimilation n-n-n > n-l-n would be possible. Analogy
could regularize * n,kWt+ > * nokWte+ in compounds. Then the k>g
would be regular (as 'singer' seems a likely enough origin).
* n,kWtkanon+
* n,kWtkalon+
* nokWtekalon+
* nakWtekalan+
* nakWtikalan+
* naxWtigalan+