Re: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

From: tgpedersen
Message: 50252
Date: 2007-10-10

> One is uffir "heap of rocks or rocky slope near the seashore" which I
> like since it's one of my favorite Wanderwörter, if related to Germ.
> Ufer, Du. oever "river bank", cf
> http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/Op.html
> http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/Opr.html
> This is borrowed later than Proto-Saami, which means the Saami met it
> in their expansion into their present homes, ie. into Scandinavia. So
> this wanderword had arrived there already then.

More Paleo-European stuff from Aikio:
"maras 'birch forest surrounded by bogs'
(< Proto-Saami *mereste:, cf. Inari Saami moorâst)"

cf. Du moerast, Fr marais, Eng. marsh
fulfilling Salmona' criterion d for identifying loans:
"Some of the words show irregular sound correspondences between
languages or dialects, indicating separate borrowings which reflect
different sound substitution strategies or distinct but related source
idioms.
"

In this case it would seem the criterion is fulfilled for NWEuropean
IE, but not for Saami, so that the former is the recipient, from wherever.


Further (this one I like too)
"-vas^s^u 'thicket'
(only in the compound siedgavas^s^u 'willow thicket',
cf Skolt Saami vââs^s^ 'thicket with young pine trees')"

and cf.
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/ws.html


Torsten