Re: [tied] Re: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 50140
Date: 2007-09-30

Look at http://cc.oulu.fi/~anaikio/index.html
 
In my opinion,
Saami is clearly a Uralic language
with strong connections with Finnic and Mordvin.
 
The ""problem"" with Saami,
is that Finland dreams of being autochtonous Europeans
and Hungary enjoys being from Siberia.
So depending if you ask a Fenn or a Hungarian,
you will get conflicting ideas about Uralic Homeland.
Because Saam people are obviously Asiatic, "yellow race"
they are a major obstacle against Autochtonous Dream.
And some people even reject the connection of Samoyed
with Finno-Ugric, for the same reason.
 
Saami and the rest of Western Uralic is an intrusion from
Siberia into Europe.
You cannot choose your ancestors.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick McCallister
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

According to Ante AIkio (sp?) the Saami (i. e.
residents of Scandinavia) originally spoke another
language before the arrival of Uralic
I've seen conflicting ideas re Saami
1: it's a form of Balto-Finnish
2: it's a separate branch of Uralic

--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@ wanadoo.fr>
wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick McCallister
> To: cybalist@... s.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Renfrew's theory renamed
> as Vasco-Caucasian
>
>
> So when do you think the Saami began speaking
> Uralic
>
> ============ ==
>
> A.F
>
> What do you mean ?
>
> Saami people are obviously Uralic, and never spoke
> anything but Uralic.
>
> Saami is definitely conservative, in the Uralic
> family.
>
> ============ =======
>
>
> and the Finns moved into Finland?
>
> ============ =====
>
> A.F
>
> They moved into Eastern Europe,
>
> After Germanic split into Westic and Nordic,
>
> and after Iranian split from Indic.
>
> So it must be rather late,
>
> A rough guess : after - 2 000 BC.

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