Re: [tied] Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

So if we sum up that theory,

Tokharian lost the generic I.E word *pisk- "fish"

and then lost the generic eastern I.E word *T-gheu "fish" ,

so that some unknown language got there in Central Asia

to make sure Tokharian could borrow the word *laks "salmon",

and misinterpret this loanword as meaning "fish".

You want me to believe this ?

Sorry, you are a nice guy

but I won't buy this theory.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick McCallister

To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 6:40 AM

Subject: Re: [tied] Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

Because salmon is the fish par excellence and I
imagine there weren't too many salmon in the deserts
of E. Central Asia, so the applied an existing word to
what they found.

--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@ wanadoo.fr>
wrote:

> The connection of *laks "salmon" with Tokharian
> "fish"
> is unclear, and it does not work so well
> from a phonetic point of view, as you underline.
>
> I believe this is phonetic Fancy.
> I suppose Peter Pan flew over this little pond.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Piotr Gasiorowski
> To: cybalist@... s.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 12:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Renfrew's theory renamed as
> Vasco-Caucasian
>
>
> On 2007-09-17 23:38, stlatos wrote:
>
> > The intermediate form must have been -kWkW-
> which could be changed
> > by analogy to -kYkY- if obviously related to a
> word with -kYu-.
>
> I agree. The 'horse' word may be related to Gk.
> o:kús, but the
> relationship is far from obvious.
>
> > This only works with kYw not kw; *LakYu+s has
> e>a by L.
> >
> > *LakYko+s 'little pond dweller, fish'
> >
> > *LakYkos
> > *LakYxos
> > *LakYs.os
>
> But Gmc. laxsa-, Lith. la~s^is, Slavic *lososI all
> mean 'salmon', and
> Ossetic läsäg and Arm. losdi, 'salmon trout'. TB
> läks 'fish' is a loan
> borrowed from a language which had something like
> *loksos at a time when
> PToch. had no *o (so the word was adopted as
> *luksu- > *l&ks&). Salmon
> and trout are hardly describable as little
> pond-dwellers. Then, what
> about Slavic *loky/*lokUv- 'pond, pool'?
>
> Piotr
>
>
>
>
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