Re: Res: [tied] legendary genealogies

These are good questions and you, among others, are
the man for myth.
Why Spain? Did the Gaels perceive the Q-Celt
commonality with Hispano-Celtic? --even though
Hispano-Celtic as a whole was farther removed from
Goidelic than Brythonic was.
They also looked to France for some of their
ancestors: e.g. the Laigin or Laighne who accompanied
one of the kings back from exile in France. They
looked for their ultimate origins in Scythia. Why?
Were they somehow cognizant of an early history 1,000
or more years before or did they run all the way to
Scythia based on the similarity with the name Scotia?
You guys know more than me, so I'll let you answer

--- "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:

> What we know about "Irish mythology" was
> contaminated by Christian-Biblical legends. What
> would be the Pre-Christian Irish myths? Why did they
> choose Spain as origin for the Irish nobility? The
> land that is called Spain sometimes is called
> Underworld or Land of the Dead. Perhaps, in the
> primordial Proto-Irish epics, the Milesians came
> from a legendary Western or Southern land.
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> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...>
> Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 13 de Setembro de 2007
> 4:23:58
> Assunto: Re: [tied] legendary genealogies
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> Here's an example from Ireland, Some of
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> recognizble --I'm guessing Lamhfionn is "White Arm"
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> (vel sim.) but names like Heber, Beouman, Agnan,
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> Heremon, etc. seem odd, After Mile Espaine and the
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> supposed invasion, the names starting looking more
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> recognizable. Are some of the 1st names supposed to
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> parodies of foreign names or are they really from
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> Gaelic?
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> Niul; invited to Egypt by Pharoah
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> Gaodhal; epynomous ancestor of the Gaels
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> Asruth
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> Sruth
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> Heber Scutt
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> Beouman
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> Oghaman
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> Taitt
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> Agnan
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> Lamhfionn
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> Heber Glunfionn
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> Agnan Fionn
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> Febric Glas
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> Nenuall
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> Nuadhad
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> Alladh
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> Arcagh
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> Deagh
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> Brath; landed in Spain
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> Breohgan (Brigus); King of the Brigantes, and of
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> Iberia
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> Bile
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> Mile Espáinne (Milesius of Spain) Galamh; ancestor
> of
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> Irish nobility; helped Pharoah Nectonileus (Necho)
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> defeat the Ethopians; killed his father-in-law when
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> attempted to slay him; invaded Ireland with his 8
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> sons, 6 of whom died in the conquest
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> m. 1: --- d/o King of Scythia
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> m. 2: Scotia; d/o Pharoah
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> Heremon d. 1683;
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> Irial Faith (“Prophet”) d. 1670 BC; King of Ireland;
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> Ethrial d. 1650 BC; King of Ireland for 20 years;
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> Tigernmas;
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> Enboath
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> Smionghall
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> Fiacha Labhrainn; King of Ireland for 24 years
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> Aingus Olmucach “Big Pig” d. 1409 BC; King of
> Ireland;
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> Reoghachach d. 1357 BC; King of Ireland for 25 years
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> Some of the first names among the Ynglinga before
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> Ingjald Ill-Rada are also pretty unique as well:
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> Vanlandi, Visbur, Hugleik, Domalde, Domar, Agne,
> Ale,
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> Alf, etc.
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> Some of the early Sköldungs have some odd names:
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> Ypper, Humble [sic], Danp, Hadingus
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> --- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@... net> wrote:
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> > At 1:00:49 AM on Thursday, September 13, 2007,
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> > > I was looking at Irish and Scandinavian
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> > > genealogies and was wondering if the names of
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> > > imginary kings actually mean anything or if they
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