Re: [tied] Re: bask r and l

It would be a but difficult to get ahold of him now
zigor doesn't look at all Romance, Basque seems to
have a fair share of compound words
Trask dismissed pre-Latin IE loans into Basque but
there seem to be a fair share
e.g. abarka "bast sandal", which seems to be related
to the source of English bark
urki, which seems to be related to the source of
English birch
anka, hanka, which seems to be related to English
haunch
I'm guessing these words came from a pre-Celtic IE
language --what Corominas called "Sorotaptic", what
others called "Ligurian" or "Illyrian" and what I
suppose was either ancestral or cognate to Lusitanian
as it made its way through France and over the
Pyrenees into Iberia c. 1000 BC or so. I suppose
Lusitanian was probably cognate to IE Ligurian and
possibly explains some of the lexicon shared between
Iberia and Sardinia, since the Ligurians were likely
in Corsica and Sardinia
Theo Vennemann may correct that these are due to a
Vasconic substrate but that's a tough one to prove
BTW: in English the word is Basque, it comes from
French


--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

> It would be interesting to have Trask's opinion
> about the word zigor "rod, piece of wood"
>
> It looks like there are two words :
> - one for "leg, foot"
> - one for "long piece of wood"
>
> MAybe both are in fact loanwords into Bask.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian M. Scott
> To: tgpedersen
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 5:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: bask r and l
>
>
> At 11:58:16 AM on Sunday, September 2, 2007,
> tgpedersen
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Vennemann:
> > Etymologische Beziehungen im Alten Europa, in
> > Europa Vasconica - Europa Semitica.
>
> > Etymology and phonotactics, ibd.
> > "
>
> > 20.2.6. Phonotactic cluster reduction: OE
> sceanca 'thigh',
> > Bq. zango, zanko 'leg, foot'
>
> > In my 1995c article I compared the
> etymologically
> > unexplained OE sceanca, MHG Schenkel (NHG
> Schenkel) etc.
> > 'thigh' to the likewise etymologically
> unexplained Bq.
> > zango (Eastern dialect zank(h)o) 'leg, foot'
>
> Note, however, that Larry Trask would have
> disagreed; see
>
>

<http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0003&L=indo-european&D=1&P=9089>.

>
> Brian
>
>
>
>

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