Re: RE : [tied] Re: North of the Somme

"The Dudes", "The Dogs" --a nice street gang quality
like the tribes supposedly named for their favorite
weapon such as the Franks, the Saxons and the
Lombards; and my favorite, the All-Men --the
Allamanni. It definitely has a different quality than
the Celtic tree-ethnonyms.

--- squilluncus <grvs@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen"
> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Wikipedia interprets the Swedish title as "King
> of the
> > > Swedes, Geats and Wends" and explains that the
> Geats
> > > are the people of Götaland. But the Swedish
> title in
> > > Latin states "Vandalorum et Gothorum" and that's
> the
> > > conflation I'm referring to.
> >
> Note that "Goths" is a prestigious name of those who
> made history and
> conquered the Western Roman Empire. Götaland was
> interpreted as the
> land of the Goths to give glory to the Swedish king.
> However, Göt- (from Gaut-) and Got- (the th in the
> end is a later
> decoration) are in no way lauthistorisch compatible.
>
> The island of Gotland, however, might have connexion
> with the Goti
> around the estuary of Wistula.
>
> Another hypothesis proposed at a seminar in
> Lidköping 1990 was that
> the Gothic invasions were merely consisting of
> warlords of
> professional soldiers of heterogenous nationality
> forming plundering
> bands taking advantage of the collapse of the Roman
> state and that
> these soldiers called themselves the "lads", the
> "guys": cf.
> Norwegian "guter" which is lautlich compatible with
> "Goths".
>
> Lars
>
>

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