Re[2]: [Courrier indésirable] [tied] Re: DBG

At 2:43:56 PM on Friday, August 31, 2007, fournet.arnaud
wrote:

> From: indravayu

>>> A.F : We don't even understand what the word "Gaul"
>>> means. Obviously, both Gallia and Belgica include tribes
>>> that have definitely non-indo-european features :
>>> Haedu living near the Arar river
>>> Carnuti living near the Atura rive.
>>> These names with a_u scheme have a non-indo-european
>>> profile. And they just happen to be tax-exempted by the
>>> Romans because they helped Romans against the P-Celts
>>> Gauls.

>> I don't really understand what you mean by
>> "non-indo-european profile" - both Aedui and Carnuti are
>> perfectly good Celtic names with solid
>> Proto-Indo-Euroepan etymologies.

> I am ready to read about these solid PIE etymologies.

I don't know about <Carnuti>, but <Aedui> certainly looks as
if it could be from PCelt. *aydu- 'fire', PIE *h2eydH-.

[...]

>>> THe word Nantu that displays this a_u scheme is most
>>> probably a non-Indo-European word, that can help us
>>> determine where non-indo-european people were
>>> inhabiting.

>> I don't think that this is a non-Indo-European word - it
>> is usually considered a relative of Celtic nemeto-
>> "sacred grove", and a derivative of PIE *nem-(2) "to
>> bend".

> This transmutation from "bend" to "sacred groove" to
> "valley" [...]

No such transmutation was proposed: the suggestion is that
both <nemeto> and *nanto- are from *nem-(2) and thus are
related, not that either is necessarily a derivative of the
other. Specifically, *nanto- could be from *nm-to-. And a
valley is a kind of bend in the earth's contour.

Brian