Re: [tied] DBG

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 49716
Date: 2007-08-31

Okay, like the Dutch name de Waal, van der Waal?


--- "Daniel J. Milton" <dmilt1896@...> wrote:

> From Wikipedia:
> "The “deâ€? in “de Gaulleâ€? is not a
> nobiliary particle, although the
> de Gaulle family were an ancient family of ennobled
> knighthood. The
> earliest known de Gaulle ancestor was a squire of
> the 12th-century
> King Philip Augustus. The name “de Gaulleâ€? is
> thought to have evolved
> from a Germanic form, “De Walleâ€?, meaning “the
> wall (of a
> fortification or city)â€?, “the rampartâ€?. Much
> of the old French
> nobility descended from Frankish and Normannic
> Germanic lineages and
> often bore Germanic names. Although not strictly a
> nobiliary particle,
> the “deâ€? in “de Gaulleâ€? has for centuries
> been written with a
> lower-case d."
> So "de" was a definite article? I know some
> families named "Wall"
> but not any named "The Wall". Somehow, I'm not
> convinced.
> Dan
> ******
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
> >
> > Can you explain?
> > I remember something about De Gaulle also talking
> > about Irish ancestry as well, know anything about
> > that?
> > Sorry about the deviation from topic
> >
> > --- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:
> >
> > > At 5:32:21 PM on Thursday, August 30, 2007,
> > > fournet.arnaud
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > And De Gaulle's name is obviously Flemish not
> > > French.
> > >
> > > More accurately, it's a French calque of a
> Flemish
> > > surname.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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