Re: Tool

From: tgpedersen
Message: 49533
Date: 2007-08-16

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> On 2007-08-16 15:19, Daniel J. Milton wrote:
>
> > Watkins says only "from Old English 'to:l', possibly from old
> > Norse". Could this be a survivor of a word behind the PIE suffix
> > for nouns of instruments *-tlo-? I know it's unlikely,
> > particularly since *-tlo- is only one variant of a presumably
> > equivalent group with *-tro-, *-dhro- and *dhlo- (from Mallory and
> > Adams), but can someone formally demonstrate that I've been
> > mislead by a false similarity?
>
> Well, for one thing, neither *t nor *dH would have given Germanic
> *t.
>
> Some kind of connection with *tawja- 'fit together, make' has often
> been suggested, though some problematic details remain to be sorted
> out.

PGerm. *taw-ja- is the PIE causative *dow-je/o-, where *dow- is the
o-grade of some verb stem. I'm tempted to claim that verb stem is
*dhe:- and that the causative was originally dh-dhow-je/o- >
(Bartholomae) *ddhow-je/o- > *dow-je/o-. That would corroborate my
idea that PIE dhe:- and *do:- is actually two different
generalizations of the same verb.


Torsten