[tied] Re: *-tro-/*-tlo-

--- Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

> stlatos pisze:
> > --- Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> stlatos wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oh? What about *gYonYxWeye+ > *kYaniyi+ > OE
> >> cennan?
> >>
> >> Wrong. OE cennan 'beget, conceive' contains a
> >> different root, *g^enh1-!
> >
> > I'm talking about OE cennan 'make known', ON
> kenna 'teach, know',
> > OHG bichennan 'know'. You may argue with the
> possible derivation and
> > sound changes I reconstruct, but I don't believe
> the root is wrong.
>
> Ah, but that one's got double -nn- in ON and Goth.
> (kannjan), so it
> reflects Gmc. *kann-ija-/-i:-, obviously a new
> analogical causative
> based on the preterito-present *kann- (itself
> secondary).

That doesn't explain other changes. What about ON han- >> hon
'she', hennar 'her (gen.)'?

I've also said:

PIE

*gWanxá+ík+s > gW(e)nxóxs > -ó:x > -á:x
*gWanxá+ík+M > gW(e)nxóikm, > -áikm,
*gWanxá+ík+ás > gW(e)nxikós


*gWn,xá:x > *kWuNó: +n > kona

*gWenxikó:m > *kWiNíhe:m > *kWiNja:~ > kvinna


The shift to n-stem obscures the change, but I'm sure it's old
because it preserves *en not *n,.

The reason ON geminates the nasal is because nx() > Nx() > N in
Germanic; ON has kj > kkj in some env. also.

> The other OE
> cennan is from *g^onh1-éje/o- (= Skt. janáyati) >
> *kan(i)ja- > WGmc.
> *kannja-.

Why did you say I got these confused? Why don't you have
palatalized K in Proto-Germanic?