Re: Res: [tied] The cat domestication happened more than 100,000 y

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 49222
Date: 2007-07-01

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...>
wrote:
>
> The articles say they were domesticated c. 10-13KYA
> Which makes sense, because the domestication of cats
> is linked to the rise of grain-based agriculture.
> The articles state that the lineage goes back to 5
> cats c. 130KYA, which is not the same thing as syaing
> they were domesticated then. In any case, the 1st
> known association between humans and cats was c.
> 10-12KYA.
> Now, you can certainly speculate that cats became
> habituated to humans as humans began to harvest wild
> patchs of grain in the Middle East
> You can also point out that non-sedentary humans seem
> to have a habit of keeping wild animals as pets.
> But domestication is something else, especially in the
> case of cats. Dogs will follow their masters from camp
> to camp. Cats won't, some type of sendentary society
> that offers them food is necessary --whether
> grain-based farms or fishing villages.

5 cats 130 KYA started to build a species.
If the birth of that species is not due to the Domestication-M
oment, we need to have another cat-species (the domestic one) that
appeared later, from a later split, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT

The last BIG cat-split is that one of 130 KYA

So that 5 cats were the first domesticated ones

And I suspect that the BBC guys are good enough , at least to can
correctly wrote :

"But the study suggests the progenitors of today's cats split from
their wild counterparts more than 100,000 years ago - much earlier
than once thought.
At least five female ancestors from the region gave rise to all the
domestic cats alive today, scientists believe"

after they read an article in Science.


Marius