Res: Res: [tied] Re: The cat domestication happened more than 100,

The related words in the Romance languages; such as, Spanish and Portuguese gato, gata and Italian gatto, gatta, came from Medieval Latin gattus, gatta, variants of Late Latin cattus, catta. French chat, chatte came directly from Late Latin cattus, catta. Late Latin cattus and catta are possibly loan words from an African language: Nubian kadis, "cat"
in
http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index/info/view_unit/3600/?letter=C&spage=6

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De: Joao S. Lopes <josimo70@...>
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Enviadas: Sábado, 30 de Junho de 2007 10:46:40
Assunto: Res: [tied] Re: The cat domestication happened more than 100,000 years ago

They are mainly onomatopoeic. Not sure as PIE roots. And if there was a PIE root for "cat", it would refer to the wild cat, not the domestic one, that came to Europe through North Africa (Latin cattus<North African).

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De: alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@ yahoo.com>
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Enviadas: Sábado, 30 de Junho de 2007 6:01:27
Assunto: [tied] Re: The cat domestication happened more than 100,000 years ago

I don't know how accurate is the below site, but based on it we have
(mainly) three roots for CAT:

*mV-
*pV(s)-
*cVt-

http://www.xmission .com/~emailbox/ say_cat.htm
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Arabic : kitte
Armenian : gatz
Basque : catua
Chinese : miu or mau
Dutch : kat
English : cat
Egyptian : miw
Eskimo : Pussi
Estonian : kass
Filipino : cat
Finnish : kissa
French : chat
Gaelic : pishyakan
German : katti, katze or ket
Greek : catta or kata
Gypsy : muca
Hawaiian : popoki
Hindi : billi
Icelandic : kottur
Italian : gatto
Japanese : neko
Latin : cattus or felis
Norwegian : katt
Polish : kot or gatto
Portuguese : gato
Pusa : cat
Rumanian : pisica, m^at,a
Russian : koshka (female); kot (male)
Slovenian : maèka; muca
Spanish : gato
Swahili : paka
Swedish : katt
Ukrainian : kitska (female); kit (male)
Welsh : kath
Yiddish : chatul or gattus

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@ ...>
wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@... s.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@ > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > It is an interesting question why cats weren't common

enough

> in
> > > the ancient Indo-European world to have a general I.E. name.
> >
> > It seems to be older that the IE invasions.
> >
> > Trask: The History of Basque, p. 265
> > "
> > Sex-marking is not common in Basque, except by lexical means, as

> > gizon 'man' and emakume 'woman', behi 'cow' and zezen 'bull'. The
> > adjectives eme 'female' (a loan from Gascon) and or 'male' are
> > sometimes attached to animal names when the distinction is thought
> > necessary: katar 'tomcat', kateme 'female cat' {katu 'cat'), oilo
> > 'hen', oilar 'cock, rooster'.
> > "
> >
> > Besides katu Basque also has kathu and gatu; Trask assumes (as
> always)
> > a loan from Latin. For some reason Italian (gatto) and several
> Romance
> > dialects seems to have sporadically the same lenition which is
> typical
> > of Basque (but which katar/katu seeme to have escaped).
> > German Kater, Du. kater "tomcat"
> > German Katze, Du. kat "cat"
> > That suffix -er "male" is very rare in German and Dutch.
> > Perhaps = -er in Engl. gander?
> >
>
> 1. We have Slavic cotU too : Does somebody knows its etymology?
>
> 2. Romanian cotoi 'tomcat' is considered 'from Slavic + oi'
>
>
> Could we assume an 'European' root *kat- ?
>
> Marius
>

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